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- From: bateau@ozemail.com.au
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- Subject: Re: UFOS in the Bible.
- Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 07:06:35 GMT
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- maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) wrote:
-
- >In article <4qdic5$din@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net>,
- >bateau@ozemail.com.au wrote:
-
- >> I agree with Cyberstorm wholeheartedy. If surprises me that right in
- >> the midst of all that is happening on the planet at the moment, that
- >> there could exist people who don't even believe in aliens far less
- >> involve themselves with studying the connection between aliens and the
- >> Bible, Occultism and Science.
-
- > I guess you're focussing on the issue far too much to see outside our
- >western affluent mindset then. The vast majority of the people on this
- >planet are far too busy to trying to make it alive into the next day to
- >give a damb about esoteric issues like this. Are you really surprised
- >that someone living in a gutter in China could care less about this and
- >has never even thought about it? What about the person down the road that
- >fixes your car?
-
- I can only assume that you have never had a close encounter with a UFO
- or Aliens. If you had, you would not be so quick to dismiss this as an
- 'esoteric' issue. Once you have you spent time counselling abduction
- victims and seeing what goes on behind the curtains, then maybe you
- will see what I mean when I say 'it surprises me'.
-
- >> The fact is that if you really want proof of the existence of
- >> extra-terrestrials you will get it. Make no mistake.
-
- > Sure.
-
- >> What we perceive to be our reality depends largely on what we
- >> think....
-
- > Sure.
-
- >> and they would get no closer to learning the real truth. To find the
- >> "truth", we need to look at how the universe works at a quantum level
- >> - no 'way ot' theories her, just basic stuff....
-
- > And as someone who has actually studied quantum physics, I'd love to
- >hear your theory on why this has any bearing on bible studies or whether
- >or not aliens exist. I suppose this reflects on the first portion above.
-
- A native in the jungle believes that he will die (for example) if
- someone points a bone at him, and if they do, he WILL. Such is the
- power of belief....
-
- For those who really believe (because it has simply happened to them),
- the fact of UFO's and such is REAL. For those who don't then it won't
- be, until it IS. It's a little like "not believing" in the Great
- Pyramids because you have never personally seen them, while all around
- you people are willing to testify that they do exist.
-
- Study of the Bible reveals that the people in those days simply
- described experiences based on their interpretation of how high
- technology appeared to them.
- >> The effects of the "observer" on the "observed" is a recognized fact
- >> in science and has been for quite some time. When you focus your
- >> attention on something, it grows - simple as that.
-
- >Uhhh, no.
-
- Uhhh, yeah... Uncertainties, errors and deviations accumulate with
- observation or are you saying that Werner Heisenberg was wrong ?
- What do you think happens in the Quantum realm anyway ?
- I cannot think of anything that will not grow when attention or focus
- is applied to it - can you?
-
- >> If even ONE of the thousands (more ?) of alien reports, abductions,
- >> mutilations, landings, contacts and government dealings is true, then
- >> then aliens are real.
-
- > What if none of them are? The entire world thought the planet was flat,
- >much of the north eastern seaboard of the US became convinced that
- >Tomatoes were poisonous and other such issues as well.
-
- If I had never had proof, I would say the same thing,
-
- > You say you're convinced, good for you. That's meaningless as your
- >misunderstandings of quantum physics notes above.
- >Maury
-
- WELL EXCUSE ME !
-
- Would you care to put your theories together and please enlighten all
- of us as to exactly how the Quantum Realm functions ? (and, how we
- have no interaction with it!).
-
- If you don't believe in aliens, then why are you here - attacking
- those who do ? How about showing some compassion and trying to help us
- understand what is happening here ( or are you too 'scientific' for
- that?)
-
- Regards, Michael
-
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